Storm on the Horizon

Post by **Mimi** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:07 pm

Currently, there is a movement gathering steam on the Official CoX forums.

PvP'ers are clamoring to nominate an "unofficial" PvP server, just as Virtue is known as the "unofficial" RP server.

They have started a poll to determine a general course to take.

Infinity is currently tied at #1 with Freedom.

Obviously, this could have very real repercussions on our community and possibly even the future of the SG on Infinity. I encourage you all to go and vote on this, it should only take a second. Unfortunately, right now, a vote for any other server than Freedom is really just 1/2 a vote for Infinity (the other servers are quite far behind).

Vote in the Poll Here

Jay Taggert · Post by **Jay Taggert** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:12 pm

How did we take #1 for pvp?

Post by **Mimi** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:13 pm

Jay Taggert wrote:How did we take #1 for pvp?

Hell's Army, PCSAD, Raserei, ABH. They are all pretty vocal both on the PvP forums, and on the Infinity forums.

Blitzen · Post by **Blitzen** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:13 pm

Voted. Infinity is slightly ahead right now. Hopefully the honor (or honour, for Mighty E) goes to Freedom.

Glowing Vigilance · Post by **Glowing Vigilance** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:15 pm

Freedom pulls ahead with two votes but believe me... that is not a enough. Damnit, I don't want to think about the repercussions.

Jay Taggert · Post by **Jay Taggert** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:16 pm

So what happens if we do win and suddenly we are flooded with All the Pros and Cons of PvP? Rp PvP'ers?

Post by **Mimi** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:18 pm

Jay Taggert wrote:So what happens if we do win and suddenly we are flooded with All the Pros and Cons of PvP? Rp PvP'ers?

Let's take one step at a time. This is a preliminary poll, and by no means a "done deal" either way.

Eric Copper · Post by **Eric Copper** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:21 pm

You know, the only way it can tell that you voted is by a cookie.

Clear your cookies, wait a few minutes, and you can...

...

What?

I wasn't suggesting anybody actually do it...

MoonTide · Post by **MoonTide** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:37 pm

The villain sg my mastermind is in loves pvp and base raids. I bet they will be voting for here as well.

I don't care much for PVP, it seems too unbalance for 1v1 or even small teams, but I did enjoy the base raid I helped with on the villain side.

--moon

Psyrift · Post by **Psyrift** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:39 pm

MoonTide wrote:This may be a dumb question, but if the dev's take this as what we all want, does that mean all zones will become pvp? I don't care much for it myself, other than base raids are pretty fun.

No, it's all unofficial and community-driven. It's fairly unlikely that all zones will become PvP. It's fairly unlikely that the devs will do much of anything in response to this, actually.

MoonTide · Post by **MoonTide** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:42 pm

Psyrift wrote:
MoonTide wrote:This may be a dumb question, but if the dev's take this as what we all want, does that mean all zones will become pvp? I don't care much for it myself, other than base raids are pretty fun.
No, it's all unofficial and community-driven. It's fairly unlikely that all zones will become PvP. It's fairly unlikely that the devs will do much of anything in response to this, actually.

Heh, yeah I guess I should click the link first, respond after. I thought this was on the main boards.cityofheroes.com site. I guess I didn't edit it quick enough

--moon

Post by **Mimi** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:43 pm

Psyrift wrote:It's fairly unlikely that the devs will do much of anything in response to this, actually.

True. The concern is what will happen to the player-base and chat on Infinity.

Broadway · Post by **Broadway** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:55 pm

Freedom has a 15 vote lead

Gravwarp · Post by **Gravwarp** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:57 pm

+1 Freedom

17 vote lead

Roxette · Post by **Roxette** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:20 pm

Truth be told, Freedom really should be the PvP server on a few main points.

PvP requires actual player interaction. After playing on Alleria on WoW from launch up to before the cross server PvP addition, I learnt that being on a faction heavy server makes PvP very frustrating for one side. Now I know Alleria was a PvE server, but with battlegrounds it gave the same type of feel as CoX PvP zones. Instanced areas. Now the best example I can give would be Alterac Valley matches. Alliance would almost ALWAYS have a full 40 while Horde would BARELY scrap up enough to start a match, and if your lucky, they would get a few more to allow the match to keep going BEYOND the "not enough players match will end in 5 mins" warning. Now keep in mind with that queue system it was more frustrating since you would wait for like 4+ hours to get a match that doesn't even get played.

Granted that probably won't happen in terms of waiting, HOWEVER, one side being heavily outnumbered very well could. Infinity is a Hero heavy server, as such Villains would most likely get heavily aggrivated and most likely lose interest because they simply would get gangbanged due to numbers. As such, it wouldn't be fun for either side.

Freedom on the otherside is one of the bigger population servers, and if memory serves, much more balanced for both factions. This would in turn make it a better place to set up as the "unofficial PvP" server.

Second point is, Infinity has been kinda looked up on as the "baby brother" to Virtue in terms of RP. Another thing I learnt (when I spent a total of 3 months on a RP PvP server in WoW), is that RP and PvP are like Oil and Water. They just don't mix. I have NEVER seen such hated rivalry as the things that occurred over zone broadcast there. In short, it would be total anarchy leading to a LOT of flame wars. I won't go into much details but I think you can draw your conclusions. People who RP their toons hardcore, even building them to the concept would be heavily hurt in the PvP zones, and the PvPers would ruin the RPers interactions forcing people to either talk in /tells or in /team only.

Trust me its not pretty. Now I'm not saying that this WILL happen here, but it is a strong possibility. I really hope Infinity stays the way it is and Freedom is selected as the PvP server.