Cybersex and SJS

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Post by Gravwarp »

Sadly despite this post, we had an incident where a player decided to take adavantage of the open atomsphere.

This student apparently decided to use our leniency as carte blanche to, in essence, sexually assault another student both In Character and Out Of Character.

Not only is this grossly outside of what we were just discussing in this thread but also it is was an ambush of another player's character. Leaving them with no recourse to the situation. Neither of these are ways that player's in this group are expected to behave.

As such, that student has been removed.

If you want to involve someone in your story especially if revolves around any sort of romantic feelings or relationships. You must have their permission and there must be an open line of communication.
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Gravwarp, that is unhelpful.

if a player/character has been removed, i would like to see an SC digest post asap. i want to know who and i want to know why. please let us know what's going on as soon as you can.
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Siggy's on mimi and stasis post

Agree's whole heartly.

You can even pull out your toon saying its not ready for that yet.
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Mimi, I am in total agreement with you.
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Whoa, necropost FTW! ;)
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/signed I totally agree.
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Post by Misericorde »

I am bumping this for everyone's perusal. Please take the time to read the entire thread, because it is all pertinent, and contains a good object lesson. If you cannot keep your "personal business" personal, it becomes everyone's business and the SC will be forced to confront you over what has become disruptive behavior.

The majority of us are not here to "hook up" electronically with our toons who are, by necessity of the school setting, minors i.e. children. If that is your motivation for bringing your character into this group, may I suggest you find an alternate venue or outlet for your urges.
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Post by Double-Cross »

Wow, I feel like Dr. Frankenstein, resurrecting an old thread like this. I'm kinda new so bear with me.

I just want to clarify, that this post is strictly about "Cybering" correct? I am in total agreement that there's no place for that in a public RP venue.

I will also say that the "Dating/Romance" aspect of RP is an important part of a teens RP.

I've noticed quite a few who kinda RP their 16-17 year old more like a 10-11 year old. I'm not saying that to judge anyones character concept, just an observation. I remember High School at 17 years old. People didn't walk around talking about bunny rabbits and ice cream, if you catch my drift. The girls I knew in High School were well past the, "Ewww, boys have cooties" stages of their lives, haha. Dating isn't the kind of thing that most high school students "warn" another students about (unless one of the kids has a reputation of course).

I think "dating/romance/drama" aspects shouldn't, and for accuracy's sake, can't be excluded from teenage RP. However, boundaries need to be set and respected. Blatant violations of those boundaries should be enforced fiercly, to keep all the players comfortable.

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Post by Karakuriya »

Dating and romance certainly aren't excluded from the environment. In fact we have regular drama generated from the constant hooks-ups and break-ups. However, while we're well aware that high school is not rated PG-13, the community is. That doesn't mean you can't raise more mature topics, just that you need to creatively edit it to bring it within the PG-13 range. That means no graphic depictions of sex, drugs, and violence, tone the swearing down, and use a tactical fade-to-black when necessary. We do have minors within our player base.

That said, cybersex is a two-consenting-adults type thing, and with the Internet, who knows who's who. It's also totally outside the scope of SJS and a PG-13 standard. Regarding cybersex as RPing out the intimate interactions of your high school characters, I can only see it, in the most rare of circumstances, be ICly motivated--SJS is not here to further your OOC designs.

Like Mis said, though, what you do privately is your own business. Just keep it that way.

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Post by Double-Cross »

Cool, thanks for the clarification. I could care less about the cybering stuff. Thats not anywhere on my "To Do" list, lol.
That doesn't mean you can't raise more mature topics, just that you need to creatively edit it to bring it within the PG-13 range
*points up* This is really what I was talking about. I know that the SG is PG-13, and that we are RP'ing as High School students. The thing that I saw as an issue, is that they are naturally conflicting concepts.

I just wanted to make sure that I wouldn't be burned at the stake, or step on anyone's toes for trying to bring up RP with a little more depth then my favorite color or flavor of ice cream.

It's actually kind of sad to say this, but drugs, sex, and violence are some of the major issues that teens/high school students are faced with everyday. I don't plan on any kind of crazy RP onslaught, so don't worry, lol. I just think it's good to bring in a more mature/serious rp topic every once and awhile.

You answered my question though so thank you. If the time comes for RP that might be questionable, I'll keep it as ungraphic as possible, and run any ideas through the Student Council first.

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And poor Nova thought it was bad enough with the constant attention the physical friction humans seem to tag as love these day. Despite it being everywhere, there is now also the clicking of keys and transfer of data to mimic said friction. *Walks away shaking his head*

And something to keep in mind Noah, over the last 5 to 10 years there has been a rapid change in high schools, and what happens in them. For some of us our Highschool experiences were very different from what you hear about today. If you think I am old for saying this, I am going go dig up a paper I wrote suggesting the idea of generational gaps severely narrowing, rather than 33 (standard) they seem to be closer to occurring every 3 to 5 years now. (I will also kick in you the shin for insinuating that I am old)
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And poor Nova thought it was bad enough with the constant attention the physical friction humans seem to tag as love these day. Despite it being everywhere, there is now also the clicking of keys and transfer of data to mimic said friction. *Walks away shaking his head*
LOL :lol:

I can promise you, there will be no "Key clicking to mimic friction" from my keyboard, haha.

I'm not talking about getting outrageous or anything. I'm just talking about "every once and awhile" bringing up a RP topic that is quasi-mature. Something that a High School student might have to cope with.

I found a post on the forum, I believe it was written by Ayima (sorry if I'm wrong). It involved a more mature topic (razors I believe). While I wouldn't expect that to become the norm, it was intresting to see a student who had a deeper problem. To me, it added a very real aspect to the character. Kind of like, "Yea, I'm superpowered, but I'm still a teen who has problems".

From a RP sense, if that had been continued, it would be cool to see who would support her and help her get through that. It would also build very stong bonds of trust and friendship between characters.

This is all just my opinion, so feel free to disagree or ignore me completely. I won't be offended, lol.

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Post by Stasis Kiss »

Double-Cross wrote:It's actually kind of sad to say this, but drugs, sex, and violence are some of the major issues that teens/high school students are faced with everyday. I don't plan on any kind of crazy RP onslaught, so don't worry, lol. I just think it's good to bring in a more mature/serious rp topic every once and awhile.
that stuff comes up all the time and it can make for some great evenings when you end up talking about this stuff in character-context. its the cyber that is being addressed as a problem, not the nature of sexuality (or death, or drugs, or rock and roll or or or). some of the comm conversations can get pretty deep .. .and sometimes yes, we just talk about dresses and ice cream. it varies depending on what's going down in the group in both the general sense or with specific people.

the argument that erupted over Mimi's ziptagging Amy into the Zig was a good example of a deeper subject handled in a totally immature high school manner.
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Depends on where you're talking also. Jessiy's story deals with cutting. My toon knows about it, but I'm not going to say over Coalition chat: "So, you didn't cut yourself or nothing again, did you Jess?" She may take her to the side and say it. Same thing with a lot of the topics we discuss. I liken the Coal. chat to yelling down the hall. No one in my HS ever burst into the cafeteria and at the top of their lungs yelled "Lisa! Are you really pregnant?" If they did, it would've been just my luck to be home sick that day. Mostly you heard things trickle down, through the grapevine game until the point you had a clue what was going on, but not 100% sure. Someone heard from someone in homeroom that Lisa C. was pregnant. By the time study hall hit, everyone was asking Lisa Z. if SHE were pregnant, because that's what they heard.

Short version of the story - mature subject are RP'd. It's been established that Coalition chat is sometimes monitored. So if your toon wants to say he scored phreak and will be shooting up later over coalition, that's your choice, you can bet they'll be some sort of consequence immediately. If you RP it with a few of his trusted friends and he gets ratted out, then either someone overheard, or they aren't quite that trusted.
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Post by Double-Cross »

Yea, it may have been Jess's story I was reading. I've read so many posts lately, they're getting kinda blended together, lol.

That was the first post I read (so far), where it made me really stop and say, "Ohhh".

Thats basically all I wanted the clarification on Sam, was that we could RP things like that (with some discression), and not upset the powers that be.

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