Timothy Bastian wrote:While the main invasion has died down, there are still occasional incursions/raids in the city zones.
I'm going to guess that the Rikti aren't avoiding whatever area the campus is in, so... What happens on campus when there's a raid? Does everybody head to the bunker? Does life go on as always? Do things go back to normal pretty quickly afterwards?
I'm going to say that because the raids are "triggered" and only hit a single zone at a time, that SJS (in its' strange "side zone") is not often threatened: the Rikti are concentrating their occasional raids on places like Atlas and Talos.
If (and when) there are more "invasion days"-- you know, when they flip the switch and attack everywhere-- that we retreat once again into the Bunker.
I like your take on it Mimi, honestly I think at this point the Rikti are either A) Launching occasional offensives just to keep their hands in the game, which means hitting areas in easy reach of the warzone to avoid massive counterattack and ample preperation, this would probably preclude hitting further-flung side-zones. or B) trying to hit strategic objectives, probably the location of vanguard bases (Peregrine, Atlas and Founder's Falls) Financial and manufacturing centers (Steel Canyon, Galaxy City, King's Row and Skyway pretty much) or the ports (IP and Talos). This would mean they have no real reason to bomb the hell out of the areas between the main city sectors. Notice there's never been an invasion of Faultline (that I've ever seen, I may be wrong), or any of the hazard zones.
That brings me to a somewhat tangential question. I always assumed SJS was probably in the suburbs, since most of the downtown area is carefully mapped out and covered by the city zones. I understand not wanting to pin down exactly where the school is, in case they decide to plop a new city zone on our heads in a later patch, but can you give us a general idea?
I kinda pictured it in a nicer area, since like, the area between King's Row and Skyway is probably pretty much industrial and low-income like the sectors to either side ( bounded by KR, Skyway, and Perez respectively). I kinda saw it somewhere north of the Baumton canal (meaning in the area between Baumton, which was quite upper class when the school was built, and home to the Phalanx, and the canal, or perhaps on the ocean side of Baumton) Of course it's probably not by the airport there. Or somewhere in the South of the city, perhaps near Venice (now Crey's Folley) or south of Founder's.
Remember that the church part of SJS was built quite a long time ago and the school is only a "recent" addition to the existing structure. It is very likely, at least to my way of thinking, that SJS is very close to the city center as Paragon would not have been so large back then and everything's grown up around it.
Sort of like a last-bastion hold out in the middle of all the new construction.
"So pay attention to me; I don't talk for my health."
"I want you on my team."
"... So does everybody else."
That's why I figured near Venice or Baumton, which were the 'nice areas' of old paragon, Baumton was a center at least as of the turn of the century, since it was the main hub of Golden Age activity, being near the canal and port (when ports were THE means of commerce). It's implied that Baumton was the Atlas Park of the Golden Age era...
What I can tell you is that I think of SJS as being in a "side zone" like the type you go to on a train mission.
Here's what we know:
It has a substantial piece of property. There are woods nearby and on the campus itself.
It's near enough to places like City of Gyros that students in grades 10 and above can and often do go off-campus for lunch.
The neighborhood is reasonably safe. Whether or not that's because there are 300 supers on campus is another question.
It's near enough to Faultline that students hang out there even with the absence of a tram station.
Beyond that? I have no idea. I'm not sure we need to pin it down. My best guess? Somewhere in the circle. But don't quote me on that.
I agree with the idea the St. Joe's Church would hav been built a long time ago and be a part of the 'older' Paragon City, so Venice or Baumtown would be logical for where it was founded. But considering what's happened to both thse areas since Paragon was founded, it's not unreasonable to assume that the original chruch may have been destroyed in the first invasion (Baumton) or the property was bought by Crey during a time of financial hardship for the church (Venice). So, it's not unreasonable for St. Joe's to have been 'transplanted' from an older/wealthier neighborhood. Of course, having it in Founder's Falls solves those problems too.
"Well look at this.....Looks like we got here just in the nick of time. What does that make us?" "Big damn heroes, sir" "Ain't we just?" Mal & Zoe, Firefly
"I think we can take them. Do you think we can take them?" "You always think we can take them." Batman & Superman while surrounded by almost every villian in the DCU, World's Finest
Another option that has not been explored is that St. Joe's Church was once a country Catholic church and the City sprawled out to met with it. This allows use to have a small church with a lot of land to have a City of Gyros across the street and only have the other buildings around the grounds be 80 to 50 years old.
My thought is that the forest next to the school is part of a planned public pair of 18 hole Golf Courses the city bought land for in early 1941 but never got past the planing stage due to WWII. It was forgotten till the city tried to sell it to a housing developer in the late 1970s. The public outcry caused the city to reconsider and make it into a park with a 10 acre grassy area and parking with the rest left to be urban forest with a nature trails running through it.
Another quick thought: Perhaps we should make a new thread to talk about this in.
